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1952 Omega Automatic losing minutes - please advise!

  1. Dan51 Oct 24, 2014

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    2014-10-23 20.03.35.jpg 2014-10-23 20.02.33.jpg 2014-10-23 20.01.57.jpg My In-Laws presented this to me as a birthday gift. It came in a Bulova Accutron box, and they told me it was a 1967. It had a Speidel Twist-O-Flex band with a 1967 metal calendar attached. Somewhere there is an Omega box with an Accutron in it :) As a picture shows, my FIL attempted at least twice to remove the back and created the scratches.

    Here's what I know: F6231, W291055, caliber 342. Although I have not been able to find a photo match after looking at hundreds, the Omega site - using the serial reports: 1952 Omega 14kGF Bumper Automatic Movement (Gents). The styilized "9" does not match any face I've yet to see. I've seen a '53 white dial, but not black.

    I believe the crown to be original. The hands do not have enough radium to glow...tried blasting with light and then in a pitch black closet...nothing.

    I've had it serviced, and did not allow repainting, replacing original hands and/or the bubble Hesalite crystal. Sorry I do not have a picture the back removed...he had it in front of me, and I got the numbers, but I didn't have the means to photograph. $200 later with a new master spring, I love the look, size and the way it sits on my wrist.

    I hope I've given enough info and photo's to assist in the identification of this great watch.
     
  2. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 24, 2014

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    You have already identified the watch. These watches are generally not identified by the dial face, but by the case reference and movement caliber.
    in your case, it is an F 6231 with a 342 or 344 movement.


    Here is a similar 6232 that I own.

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  3. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 24, 2014

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    By the way the numbers on the watch are a script style form called "Breguet" so in this case they are Breguet numbers.
     
  4. Dan51 Oct 24, 2014

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    Thanks very much for the information.

    I'm not very well versed in caliber numbers: if mine is a 342, what does that do to the creation date? is it 1952, or the 1949 as written above?

    I didn't mention a problem I think I have. Apparently I do not move enough during the day to wind it...it stops after approx. 18-20 hours, and so I've been winding it 20-25 times each day. Other than that, it keeps good time.

    Any idea as to worth? Seriously, its worth every penny of the $200 I have in it, and will wear it till I drop.
     
  5. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 24, 2014

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    You should give the watch about 40 winds to start. The creation date would be best determined by the serial number which should be 8 numbers long and on the movement.
     
  6. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Oct 24, 2014

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    Caliber 342 was in production from 49-52' so you'd need the movement serial number to determine approximately what year it was made - won't really make any difference in value. Gold filled will typically be worth less than gold or stainless steel versions of the same watch.

    I would say value in the $6-700 range.

    very nice watch. I love those Breuget numerals too - here's my Seamaster with a similar dial, reference 2576, caliber 344.
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  7. Difeer Oct 25, 2014

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    Nice watch! Your in-laws have good taste.
     
  8. Dan51 Mar 31, 2015

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    Thanks to everyone who posted replies...I have a question:

    The watch is losing *minutes* instead of seconds per day. In the winder for 24 hours (I have tried several different rotation modes/times, no luck) and I lost 6 full minutes. I suspect that because I used a local jeweler and not someone intimately familiar with Omega I need to send it to someone reputable for a thorough diagnosis.

    Question: Who do you recommend?

    Thanks very much.
     
  9. Thatguy Sep 19, 2017

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    I think it need to be checked, about it's amplitude and rate,if the amplitude still remains high then you only need to adjust its rate. Bring to any watchmaker, they could do this as long as they got the device to measure. But if it turns out that the amplitude is on the low side, it's time for another spa
     
  10. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 19, 2017

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    Apparently he is that guy that needs to look at thread dates... ;)
     
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  11. Damo Sep 19, 2017

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    He won't be the first, nor the last. It happens on all forums...
     
  12. omg smstr Sep 19, 2017

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    As the watch was losing 6 minutes per day and as 903 days have passed since the message was posted.
    We can conclude that the watch has already lost 5418 minutes.
    that is a little more than 90 hours.
    The watch was on time already 7 times since then (that is much less than a stopped watch that is on time twice a day)
     
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