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1940's Universal Geneve cal. 262

  1. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 7, 2015

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    After an extended courtship I decided to purchase this 35mm Universal Geneve. I noticed that "GENEVE" does not have an accent. The font looks correct to me but I wondered if anyone could offer some insight. Also, show us your caliber 262 UG's please. :)
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  2. jordn Wants to be called Frank for some odd reason Jun 7, 2015

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    I don't have a cal. 262, but my cal. 332 doesn't have an accent over the E either.

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    The engraving '51330' on the caseback was inexplicably added by a third party, but everything seems to be original. If I were you, I would hold off for a better example though. There is extensive corrosion on inside edge of the caseback, and good examples with cleaner dials can be had for anywhere from 200 to 400 USD
     
  3. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 7, 2015

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    The corrosion does not look quite as severe in the metal but I agree that this example has seen better days. I particularly like the dial on this one and have not seen another one quite like it yet. I paid $300 USD which I think is okay given the condition and the size (35mm is nicely oversized for the 1940's).
    Thank you for the information.
     
  4. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jun 7, 2015

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    I am confident that the dial is correct and original. Accents were almost never consistently used by the various Swiss companies during that era. Even Vacheron was inconsistent.

    I think that it is a terrific watch, as the dial design and elongated lugs match really well.

    Congratulations!
     
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  5. jordn Wants to be called Frank for some odd reason Jun 7, 2015

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    Ah, I misunderstood you. I didn't realize that you had already bought the watch. Photos never do a watch justice and always accentuate "imperfections". Wear it in good health!
     
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  6. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Jun 7, 2015

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    I am surprised that the Swiss of all people lacked consistency. ;) Thanks for the info and I completely agree about the dial and the lugs.
     
  7. Jonatan Nov 7, 2015

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    Hello gentlemen. I have stumbled on this 262 and would love your opinion on it. The price is very low and I think it could clean up very nicely. The seller mentions the diameter at 32.5 mm. Thanks for the help. Dial looks original and I believe that hands are also but... Also should I be worried about those female springs bars?

    Thanks,

    J
     
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  8. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 7, 2015

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    Would need higher quality shots of the dial to confirm its originality. However, the sub seconds hand is too long and does not match the hour/minute hands. The gold filled case and average (small) size are probably why the price is low. Not to mention the somewhat finicky female spring bars and that jaunty looking crown. For me this watch is a pass at any price.
     
  9. Northernman Lemaniac Nov 7, 2015

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  10. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 7, 2015

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  11. Northernman Lemaniac Nov 7, 2015

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    No real idea why. Could be several years between them?
    Mine has a very unworn look to it.
    I would be extremely surprised if it's not kosher.
     
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  13. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 7, 2015

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    I am quite certain that both are original.

    It just amazes me how many variations there are in UG dial fonts and details.
     
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  14. Rman Nov 7, 2015

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    @DirtyDozen12 Really like the watch, the dial and overall feel of the design. Must have been stunning fresh from the factory.
    Hope you enjoy wearing it!
     
  15. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 7, 2015

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    @Rman Thank you very much! I am still processing your 13ZN, it is exquisite.
     
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  18. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Dec 18, 2017

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    Crown is unsigned. Not confident that it is original.
    Thanks!
     
  19. 10H10 Dec 19, 2017

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    The crowns were without a logo in 1945, it should be blank.
     
  20. abnrm Dec 19, 2017

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    Here's my :
    Universal Geneve Cal.262 Ref. 31236 1945
    It does have an accent over the E.