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1920s Vintage Rolex Dial: Original or Redial? Help Needed

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Vestiaire Collective declared the watch authentic but cancelled the sale because they claimed that the dial had been repainted by a third party.

They have not provided any detailed technical evidence or comparison photos. I would be very grateful for informed opinions from experienced vintage Rolex collectors.

Based on the photos, do you believe the dial is original, restored or fully refinished? What specific details lead you to that conclusion?

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There may be other opinions on this dial, but sadly, I believe it is a very poor re-paint. I am confused with the markings inside the case back. If the case is legitimate Rolex, I suspect it would have been made either in Switzerland, or England. The markings I would expect to see inside the case back, aren’t there. Hope for other opinions. The movement in the watch appears to be one produced for Rolex by their associate firm, Aegler.
 
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Looks like UK 18K hallmarks inside the case although they are not clear enough to ascertain the city of assay and seem incomplete.

The box is definitely much newer than the watch, maybe by as much as 40 years (1960’s).

The dial looks like a reproduction of what someone thought a Rolex dial from the 1920’s should look like. I’m not sure if Rolex used the crown logo on ladies’s watches at that time.

So I would have questions about that piece.
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JimInOz
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Circular dial in an octagonal case?
The whole thing screams poor redial to me (in addition to notes above).
 
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There may be other opinions on this dial, but sadly, I believe it is a very poor re-paint. I am confused with the markings inside the case back. If the case is legitimate Rolex, I suspect it would have been made either in Switzerland, or England. The markings I would expect to see inside the case back, aren’t there. Hope for other opinions. The movement in the watch appears to be one produced for Rolex by their associate firm, Aegler.
Thank you for your opinions.


Just to clarify, Vestiaire Collective did not declare the watch fake. They declared the watch authentic, but claimed that the dial had been repainted by a third party.


I understand that some of you believe the dial may have been refinished. Could you please indicate the specific technical details that lead you to that conclusion? For example: the typography, logo, minute track, surface finish, proportions, or anything else visible in the photos.


I would also prefer to keep the discussion focused on the dial, as the authenticity of the watch itself was not disputed by Vestiaire Collective.


Thank you again for any precise technical observations.
 
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Nobody here has questioned the case or the movement.

The re-dial is quite obvious to us that have seen hundreds of genuine dials as well as re-dials (collectively, possibly thousands).

You haven't provided clear photos of the hallmarks, but by the style I'd say it's 1920s. In all of the dials I've seen, Rolex never used the Coronet in the 20s.

This is what the dial may have looked like.

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I am assuming that Vestiaire Collective is the seller. If they have already declared that the dial was repainted by a third party I am not sure why you would need more opinions.

If you are looking for a similar watch you will find a better one quite soon.

Good luck on this exciting quest.
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TexOmega
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OP, study 100's of dials and the Sharpie Specials are easily spotted.....

I'd rather Not help the redialers get better without pay and a nice car allowance.
 
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OP, study 100's of dials and the Sharpie Specials are easily spotted.....

I'd rather Not help the redialers get better without pay and a nice car allowance.
Never thought about it like that - great point!
 
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