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Hi. I have an omega pocket watch with an inscription April 1901. It’s gold in colour and has a chipped face. I don’t think it’s working and don’t want to wind it until it’s looked at. Does it have any value? Where could I get a repair cost assessed? Is it possible to find out more of the history and ownership of a watch from the number? I live in Ireland. Many thanks. David
 
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Hey David,

If you post up some pictures (front and back of case, dial, movement, any stamping inside the covers) we might be able to offer some better advice.

If it’s gold, the value is sadly in the melt value of that gold.

The numbers inside the watch can be used to get an extract of the archives from Omega - this costs somewhere around £150 (or more now?).

Service cost on the movement is, from a good watchmaker, typically similar to a three hand wrist watch - £250 to £600 depending on who does it.

Cracked enamel dials can be stabilised and repaired , but it’s expensive, and the results can be variable.

If it has sentimental value, and you’d like to keep it and have it running, I’d suggest a service, and depending on how bad the dial is, keeping a eye for a replacement on eBay - you might not find an exact match, but there are quite a lot floating around.

cheers

Chris
 
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Hey David,

If you post up some pictures (front and back of case, dial, movement, any stamping inside the covers) we might be able to offer some better advice.

If it’s gold, the value is sadly in the melt value of that gold.

The numbers inside the watch can be used to get an extract of the archives from Omega - this costs somewhere around £150 (or more now?).

Service cost on the movement is, from a good watchmaker, typically similar to a three hand wrist watch - £250 to £600 depending on who does it.

Cracked enamel dials can be stabilised and repaired , but it’s expensive, and the results can be variable.

If it has sentimental value, and you’d like to keep it and have it running, I’d suggest a service, and depending on how bad the dial is, keeping a eye for a replacement on eBay - you might not find an exact match, but there are quite a lot floating around.

cheers

Chris
Thanks for your reply Chris. Photos below
 
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As Chris said, if it has sentimental value, then go for it. Maybe @Canuck can tell you if yours is of any significance, quality-wise

Otherwise, check the eBay sold listings, and you can see that c1900 Omega pocket watches with nice dials do not cost a tremendous amount, and might be better candidates for investing in a service.

The American made pocket watches tend to be of higher quality, so if you are looking to become a fellow pocket watch dweeb, and you want just one pocket watch, I’d suggest getting a US made railroad grade model.
 
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Looks like one of the higher grade 19’’’ movements from the screwed in chatons(sp?) for the jewels.

Are there any hallmarks or makers marks anywhere on the case @Droberts?
 
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Thanks
here are some more pictures of the markings. I have one more of the inscription which I will post shortly.
 
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The inscription seems to commemorate a municipal retirement in Lindern. Am I correct? Thanking you. David
 
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0,585 is 14ct gold - so if you know the weight of the gold, you can see what the scrap value of that would be.

The movement is one of the higher grade variants - and should run nicely if serviced.

The damage to the dial is less than great - if I was thinking of this as a restoration project, I'd be hunting for a replacement that's close.

It's worth being aware that bringing this back to its former glory will cost you more than it is likely worth.
 
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0,585 is 14ct gold - so if you know the weight of the gold, you can see what the scrap value of that would be.

The movement is one of the higher grade variants - and should run nicely if serviced.

The damage to the dial is less than great - if I was thinking of this as a restoration project, I'd be hunting for a replacement that's close.

It's worth being aware that bringing this back to its former glory will cost you more than it is likely worth.

Thanks very much for your advice. It is a beautiful object. Does the number have any significance 1690169. ? On one part it only shows 169. The sheet showing the movement types shows part numbers on each one but this watch has no part numbers on the movement. Is that common? Thank you
 
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Thanks very much for your advice. It is a beautiful object. Does the number have any significance 1690169. ? On one part it only shows 169. The sheet showing the movement types shows part numbers on each one but this watch has no part numbers on the movement. Is that common? Thank you
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The hallmarks inside the case indicate a locally produced German case with an Omega movement, or possibly a Swiss case for export to Germany. I'd have to refresh my knowledge of early 20th century hallmarks to confirm though.

Early calibers were marked with serial numbers on the dial side of the plate (i.e.: under the dial), so your watchmaker can provide the details.
 
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You shouldn’t have too much of a problem finding a replacement dial on ebay if you look about. Sometimes i see what at first glance appears to be a lovely vintage Omega dial for sale only to read to measurements and be dissapointed (being a collector of wristwatches).
 
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