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  1. morpey Nov 23, 2015

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    Hey guys, I'm looking to make my first venture into the exciting world of vintage watch ownership. I have been looking specifically at this Omega Seamaster De Ville, ref num: 166020SC, 18k Solid Yellow Gold stamped from 750, Cal: 565, 24 jewels, silver dial, plexiglass, crocodile skin strap, Mint condition, 1968, freq: 19800 A/h, power res: 50h. - as shown in the following pictures. However, there is still a lot i need to learn, as I am struggling to source the movement number, which is - 2'4760'295 - as 24000000 numbers seem to be skipped in the omega movement number references?
    3518625b_xxl.jpg 3518625c_xxl.jpg 3518625d_xxl.jpg 3518625f_xxl.jpg

    I'm interested to find out from you guys why it is the case that this set of numbers are missed, as well as to be given a valuation of the watch, considering its apparent excellent condition (looks as if it's been refurbished maybe?).

    Thanks.
     
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  2. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Nov 23, 2015

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    Your attachments are so tiny. Cannot say any thing from them.
     
  3. Hijak Nov 23, 2015

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    Better pictures than this will be required for any real help.
     
  4. morpey Nov 23, 2015

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    apologies. - see edit -
     
  5. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Nov 23, 2015

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    Case and movement look ok. I need a close up on the seamaster font like this

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  6. morpey Nov 23, 2015

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    I have requested a better quality close up from the seller. This is the best I can do for now. What do you think?

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  7. morpey Nov 24, 2015

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    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
    Here are the further additional photos the seller sent me:
     
  8. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 24, 2015

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    Your answer is in the seamaster S and e,s and v in De Ville
    And the position of Swiss made

    How'd I go @hoipolloi ?
     
  9. morpey Nov 24, 2015

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    Well, I can't tell much from the Seamaster text, except for maybe that the first "e" is on a shallower incline on the initial upstroke?
    Otherwise the 29th and 31st minute markers are on the outside of the W and D in "SWISS MADE", as opposed to the inside of the W and D on @hoipolloi sample photo.

    What does this mean in terms of authenticity / value?
     
  10. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Nov 24, 2015

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  11. morpey Nov 24, 2015

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    Okay nice. What would be your estimated value based on what you've seen?
     
  12. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 24, 2015

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  13. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Nov 24, 2015

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    18k + 565 + hippocampus + box, nice strap and buckle + clean dial and movement = 1800 USD or a bit more, less.

    PS.
    That is the price for a dial with black onyx insert hour markers. IF they are black painted. 300 usd less, I guess.
     
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  14. morpey Nov 24, 2015

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    Thanks for that @hoipolloi , you've been very helpful. One final thing with regards to the hour markers, how do I go about verifying whether they are onyx inserts or simply painted? Would that require a professional service? Thanks again for your help.

     
  15. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Nov 24, 2015

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    Here are black painted and black onyx inserts.

    Can you tell?

    2015-11-24_06-00-17.jpg 2015-11-24_06-01-18.jpg
     
  16. morpey Nov 24, 2015

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    The first picture is painted? Only the top is black, whereas the second picture are inserts as you can see the black goes further into the hour markers?

    Is that right? Interested as is it not possible to paint the difference I see?

     
  17. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Nov 24, 2015

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    Yes you are right.
     
  18. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 25, 2015

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    The onyx is actually a insert that is noticeable to the eye when inspecting the watch. You will see this being asked on the forum as not as easy to see in pictures

    Great examples by @hoipolloi
     
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