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168.0025 Connie Pie Pan

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Recently became interested in pie pans because I’ve been looking for a classic daily driver to start (and possible pause for a couple years) with and came across this local listing by chance. It’s a unibody 34mm case, slate dial, ref 168.0025. Listed from 80000 Philippine pesos or about USD 1400.

The seller buys and sells from Japan vintage shops, bought this for his personal collection but decided to sell. I believe it’s watch head only and I plan to get a new strap. Posting for legit check and opinion on price? Thanks!

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Welcome @bconhern

You need to download the pics and post them and not just post screen shots, so that the quality is good enough to assess the watch properly.
 
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Got to view the watch today and took some in person pics! Dial is really clean and seems to pass the MOY, hands look good.

I have a question about the case back— it seems to have an extra lip not seen on most Pie Pans I’ve seen online.

Side note, the guy who’s selling seems genuinely passionate about watches and I trust him. I just don’t want to bail on another listing I found with the original BOR and leather strap a few days before just because of recency bias.
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Sharing also photos of the other set I mentioned that I got to view a couple days ago with the BOR bracelet and leather strap. Obviously also with a patina. Bought by the owner in Bangkok and last serviced last year.

This is being sold for slightly less, about 1300 USD.

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@bconhern
These are two very different Constellations- the only connection being that they both have pie pan dials.

The dogleg is (generally) infinitely more desirable than the .025 but the dial on the dogleg is unattractive- and the asymmetrical dial damage (mould?) is a sure sign of moisture intrusion through the crown.
 
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I like the first one better, though dog legs are always great, but the hash marks look very irregular? Between 8 and 11? Or is it just the photo?

Glad you are interested in them!
 
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"..The dogleg is (generally) infinitely more desirable than the .025..."
Wow, what a strong not justified personal statement!
Konrad
Edit: very attractive... to me!
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"..The dogleg is (generally) infinitely more desirable than the .025..."
Wow, what a strong not justified personal statement!
Konrad
I think its just how its reflected in prices, there are definitely far more doglegs out there and they're a more common reference, that has led to a lot of people being interested in and chasing them compared to the monocoque cases which most Constellation collectors probably aren't even aware of. They're great value though and I quite like them.
 
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"..The dogleg is (generally) infinitely more desirable than the .025..."
Wow, what a strong not justified personal statement!

One that I am more than happy to stand by - and I should, of course, have added ‘and the .015’ to the statement. ( but the thread is about pie-pans)

These monocoque references do contain a great engine in the cal 564 but are, IMHO, the diminutive, stumpy-lugged, runt-end, low point in 60s Constellation design - and whilst some collectors do like them they are undoubtedly in the minority - which is why they only appear infrequently on OF.

The dogleg design is widely popular for its iconic design ( not just availability) and so I will say again, infinitely more desirable.

(And for the record it is not my favourite Constellation case style -and I prefer dome-dials to pie pans)

That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t enjoy your watch - or whichever case / dial style you prefer - because as with many things ‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder’.
-and the world would be such a boring place if we all liked the same things….
 
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I can't resist to add my newest acquisition:
  • A perfect 168.025 in 18k, crisp case, original crystal with loupe, the complete original papers and box. Ok, I did not yet look into the case to inspect the cal 564 movement.
  • I added an 18k bracelet!
  • And I never got a watch with such a perfect going rate. Its from 1970, 55 years old!
=> And it looks perfect at my wrist, such a nice jewel, thpugh it's small, as I use to wear abput 40th mm.
See yourself, isn't it attractive? Or did I miss anything?
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I can't resist to add my newest acquisition:
  • A perfect 168.025 in 18k, crisp case, original crystal with loupe, the complete original papers and box. Ok, I did not yet look into the case to inspect the cal 564 movement.
  • I added an 18k bracelet!
  • And I never got a watch with such a perfect going rate. Its from 1970, 55 years old!

See yourself, isn't it attractive? Or did I miss anything?
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That is a very sharp and crisp case. Much like the C-Case Constellation models, these look so different when unpolished compared to a rounded off example. The juxtaposition of the hard lines and smooth curves in the same case design makes it a really special piece.
 
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Wow, this Tuxedo looks even better than mine!
Dial maybe, if you say so, but the case shape is a bit soft. However, it is quite hard to find a sharp case, so one cannot be too picky 😀
 
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I have a question about the case back— it seems to have an extra lip not seen on most Pie Pans I’ve seen online.
That is correct and is only found on this case style (including Ref. 168.015).

The 168.005 that you showed is in rather poor cosmetic condition and has the wrong crown.

The 168.025 looks to be in better condition. The price seems a bit high to me in this market.
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