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Faz
·16700 is a true GMT like a 1675 or 16750. By the way, if you need it for trip you have to do hacking for a local time setting.
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·Define "true" GMT? As far as I'm concerned, and independent GMT hand and a date feature that can be set backwards fits the description of a "true GMT". The references you mention have neither.
Funny how many definitions of “true GMT” can be found. I think most point instead to a quick-set local hour hand.
In any event, what isn’t a GMT are watches like the Explorer I, where the 24hr hand is slave to the 12 hr hand and as a result the 24hr hand is actually only a glorified AM/PM indicator.
But I’d argue the bare minimum to be a GMT watch is any 24hr movement with a three hand setup: the watch can be set to GMT and read in 24hr time telling, which is all pilots needed.
Past that and even better is a 24hr movement with also a rotating 24hr dial, such as the Glycine Airman - now pilots can set the dial face to GMT and the bezel to their preferred “local” (be that destination, origin, or where their sweetheart lives).
The Rolex GMT was in some respects then a step backwards from pilots needs and toward more civilian-minded needs, in that it incorporated a 12hr movement at all.
I’ve birdwalked enough, but also enough to now make the point: any Rolex GMT is a GMT, and OP shouldn’t get hung up on whether there’s a “true GMT” version.
Unless the OP is a pilot who does not use 12hr time format and regularly crosses time zones, in which case buy a 24hr watch 😉
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Togri v. 2.0
··Wow! Custom title... coolThe latter glossy 16750 with it’s famous flaw of the lacquer breaking into a spider Webb pattern is just BS in my opinion. It’s a cracked dial. I don’t see spider webbing as a good thing on my window
Ahh come on! You can’t expect some schmuck, who have just paid $15,000 for a hyped watch with a cracked dial to just call it what it is. Then he wouldn’t be able to sell with a 50 percent profit one year later 😁
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spacemission
·Define "true" GMT? As far as I'm concerned, and independent GMT hand and a date feature that can be set backwards fits the description of a "true GMT". The references you mention have neither.
It has been explained, saga GMT-Master. I'm sorry I'm very romantic. Even a bezel with 120 clicks is welcome 😀
I think that independent hour hand was really great for GMT-Master II but mainly for Explorer II. However we can talk in the future about how do you have to set the time if you go to Nepal for example 😉
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·Might I also add that it's depressing seeing a watch my age that actually shows patina...
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140dave
·What, is everyone discussing watches none of you own?!? Where are the pictures in this thread?!? 😁
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·Ok...16710 here. A worthy replacement to my long gone and foolishly sold 16750. If my 16710 had a quick set date, it would certainly be "the perfect GMT".
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cvalue13
·I’m here because one of the discussed models is on my hit list next call, call and the addition of photos cause not helping matters!
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Nobel Prize
·16710 from 2004
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vintage hab
·as I've said repeatedly, Coke is the Real Thing (16710)
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CoDiffe
·So as a new 16710 owner I've got to say I'm a little surprised by the thickness of the case. Used to have a 16750 and case was definitely slimmer than a sub. I've held my 16710 up next to my 14060 and I can't see any difference in thickness - they look the same! Can't imagine the thickness of a 16760 but have never held one.
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