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166.010 sizing question!

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Hello, All! So I have received my 166.010, and I think it is just beautiful! I'll share pix tomorrow, once I have some daylight to work with.

For now, though, I wanted to ask a quick question about how to size a BOR bracelet.

I believe I can take out only one link on the 12 o'clock side. However, my resizing tool doesn't seem to have a pin or bolt(?) that is long enough to push the bracelet pin out. Do you have any suggestions for easy ways to manage this?

I was also a bit surprised that I couldn't take more links out on the 6 o'clock side. All of the removable links are already out. 🙁

Finally, I noticed that the pin in the middle pivot of the clasp is loose: it slides in and out just a little. Obviously, that's not great! Do you have suggestions about this, too?

Despite all this, I think the watch is terrific! As I said--pix to come.

Thank you!

Chris
 
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Also: does the 166.010 have a quickset date? I couldn't quite find that setting.

Thanks again!

Chris
 
Dan S
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What bracelet are you referring to, a 1036? Usually links are removed with springbars, you don't push the pins through, but push them inwards from both sides.

And remember, you can always move the permanent links from one side to the other if necessary, you just need to remove the pin attaching them to the clasp.

No quickset, but semi-quickset.
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Hi Dan S! I just checked--the clasp says "1036." If there are mini-springbars within the bracelet, I guess I'm not sure how to remove a removable link!

But I am also thinking I will need to remove non-removable links to get a good fit (wrist is 6.5 cm): probably 2 non-removables on the 6 o'clock side, and 1 removable and 1 non-removable from the 12 side.

I've been reading around here on OF, and it seems to be possible to do this--but perhaps best left to a watchmaker. But what do you think?

Thank you!
Chris
 
Dan S
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Instead of trying to push the pin through, push it from both sides, and remove the link, like removing and end-link from between the lugs.
 
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Dan S Dan S
Instead of trying to push the pin through, push it from both sides, and remove the link, like removing and end-link from between the lugs.
Oh--I think I see: I guess I need two spring bar tools? or would a paperclip work for one side?

Do you have any suggestions about the non-removable links?

Thanks again!
Chris
 
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Non removable links, I think you will need to unfold some of the beads of rice, remove a link, and refold. I haven't done it, but it seems like that would be the way. Some fine needle-nose pliers wrapped with tape should do the job. Go slow and don't unfold more than necessary.
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cnjackson cnjackson
Also: does the 166.010 have a quickset date? I couldn't quite find that setting.

Thanks again!

Chris
Assuming it has a 565 movement, it is a quickset. You pull the crown out two clicks and push it in fully to advance each date.
 
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Spruce Spruce
Assuming it has a 565 movement, it is a quickset. You pull the crown out two clicks and push it in fully to advance each date.

I stand corrected, I forgot about that feature. And double-checking with one of mine just now, I was reminded that it can be a little stiff to pull it out to that second position. 🤦
 
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Dan S Dan S
Non removable links, I think you will need to unfold some of the beads of rice, remove a link, and refold. I haven't done it, but it seems like that would be the way. Some fine needle-nose pliers wrapped with tape should do the job. Go slow and don't unfold more than necessary.

Yep Dan's right. It's not as difficult as it seems as long as patience prevails. I usually assist the pliers with sharp screw drivers to get the unfolding started. Even tho I've done it many times I still manage to unfold one that wasn't necessary! 😁
 
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cnjackson cnjackson
Hi Dan S! I just checked--the clasp says "1036." If there are mini-springbars within the bracelet, I guess I'm not sure how to remove a removable link!

But I am also thinking I will need to remove non-removable links to get a good fit (wrist is 6.5 cm): probably 2 non-removables on the 6 o'clock side, and 1 removable and 1 non-removable from the 12 side.

I've been reading around here on OF, and it seems to be possible to do this--but perhaps best left to a watchmaker. But what do you think?

Thank you!
Chris
My wrist isn’t much bigger than yours; there should be plenty of room to choke up the 12 o’clock side by moving the pin a few holes closer to the terminus of the 6 o’clock side. Then again, I favor a louche, dangly bracelet style on my watches. I’m thinking of growing a mustache.

Spruce Spruce
Assuming it has a 565 movement, it is a quickset. You pull the crown out two clicks and push it in fully to advance each date.
I believe you also need to take care to engage the quickset only when the hands are not between the 10 and 2 or thereabouts; the mechanism is prone to jamming otherwise. When you set the watch, roll the hands to about 3:30AM the next day, use the quickset to get to the right date, then set the time. If you’re as obsessive as I am, the first step is to gingerly hold the watch as still as possible until your phone’s seconds hand is synced with the watch’s, then wind it up before rolling the hands out of the way, setting the date, and finally setting the time.
 
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I believe you also need to take care to engage the quickset only when the hands are not between the 10 and 2 or thereabouts; the mechanism is prone to jamming otherwise.

It may just be that I’ve been extremely lucky but that’s never happened to me with my 565s.

I’ve looked online for a movement manual. This is the first manual I came across.

http://www.old-omegas.com/sea71-565.html
 
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Spruce Spruce
Assuming it has a 565 movement, it is a quickset. You pull the crown out two clicks and push it in fully to advance each date.

Oh--that's really interesting! I've never heard of that system. Do you mean: when you push it back in, it automatically advances the date, or do you mean: after you push the crown in, you can advance the date?

If that latter, how do you get it back in winding mode?

I hope all this makes sense!

Thank you!
Chris
 
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Yep Dan's right. It's not as difficult as it seems as long as patience prevails. I usually assist the pliers with sharp screw drivers to get the unfolding started. Even tho I've done it many times I still manage to unfold one that wasn't necessary! 😁

Thank you on this! I'll definitely have to do more research. But I guess the idea is this:
- you unfold the small links
- Then you slip the full link off the pin.
- Then you attach the other end to close the bracelet, and refold the links.

It sound doable... I think 😀
 
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krogerfoot krogerfoot
My wrist isn’t much bigger than yours; there should be plenty of room to choke up the 12 o’clock side by moving the pin a few holes closer to the terminus of the 6 o’clock side. Then again, I favor a louche, dangly bracelet style on my watches. I’m thinking of growing a mustache.


I believe you also need to take care to engage the quickset only when the hands are not between the 10 and 2 or thereabouts; the mechanism is prone to jamming otherwise. When you set the watch, roll the hands to about 3:30AM the next day, use the quickset to get to the right date, then set the time. If you’re as obsessive as I am, the first step is to gingerly hold the watch as still as possible until your phone’s seconds hand is synced with the watch’s, then wind it up before rolling the hands out of the way, setting the date, and finally setting the time.

Haha! I have mine on right now--with a dangly, drapey fit that allows the clasp to sit in just the right position. I like the look!

And thank you for the suggestions on setting the date and time!
Chris
 
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Oh--that's really interesting! I've never heard of that system. Do you mean: when you push it back in, it automatically advances the date, or do you mean: after you push the crown in, you can advance the date?

If that latter, how do you get it back in winding mode?

I hope all this makes sense!

Thank you!
Chris
I would say you pull it one click to the setting position and then once more to advance the date by one day. You won’t push the crown all the way back in, but rather advance one day at a time with each additional pull while the crown is in the time-set mode. In other words, the crown returns to the pulled-out-one-position setting mode after each tug to advance the date.
 
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Oh--that's really interesting! I've never heard of that system. Do you mean: when you push it back in, it automatically advances the date, or do you mean: after you push the crown in, you can advance the date?

If that latter, how do you get it back in winding mode?

I hope all this makes sense!

Thank you!
Chris

This is the link I posted earlier. “A picture is worth a thousand words” 😉
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