hello everyone. I'm being offered a nice 145.022-69 with 29m serial number but according to the chronomaddox chart 69's should be in the 28m serial range and 29m is 70's. Is this minor discrepancy acceptable? Watch has a stepped dial with smooth caseback which fits a 69' reference. Thanks in advance.
It's fine as an approximation. However, more accurate info is available for Speedmasters, such as MWO and speedmaster101.com
I believe 29m is the 'most correct' serial range for early -69s, and those below are actually the 'discrepancies'. My -69ST has a 2960xxxx serial and a smooth back + DON bezel. Also, post pics of the watch in question!
Here are some pictures. The watch looks good and reasonably priced unless I'm not seeing something wrong with it. Does the lume look original?
+1. go for it. The list is correct if you look to Omega extract of archives. If you look on an extract with 29mil it will say February till mid of 1970. Thats absolutely correct for a caseback with -69. Most time the year of the caseback is one year earlier than the production date listet in the extract of archives.
Yeah I've been itching to pull the trigger but my current expenses is making me think twice. I forgot to mention seller is asking $4900. What do u guys think of the price?
I think the telemeter bezel will lower the price in comparison to a DON bezel. But the Dial looks great.
I believe that the chart is referring to the year of manufacture and not the reference of the case... most 145.022-69s were made in 1970 (I have one that was manufactured in late 1970 with a 30,xxx,xxx serial). As other have said, a 29,xxx,xxx serial is spot on. That's an interesting bezel on the watch.. I would verify that it's correct for the reference, I'm sure some of the experts will chime in. If it is correct, it probably adds value since it's rare. I like the patina on that watch too.. great condition.
If i compare a 145.022 from 68 between a 69 , i think i would prefer the 68er. Don Bezel, longer Indices and applied Logo. Maybe something like this one from Ebay. But the watch is more expensive Omega Speedmaster Chronograph Watch 1968 145022-68ST Pre Moon Raised Logo DialPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network I'm not the seller, because i'm from Europe ....
That is really steep for a non DoN bezel 69 Speedy. Bezel also doesnt look like an original vintage one but a modern replacement piece if I am not mistaken
Serial number is correct, the watch was likely produced mid-1970. I have a -69 with a 28.42M serial produced in early January 1970. Price is pretty steep without DON, but it's also got a 1039 bracelet which I think might make up for some of the difference.
Hands and dial look original, but no way am I paying that price without the DoN it should have. I'd say someone's bought this, taken the DoN bezel for another watch and replaced it with a modern telemeter bezel as it's harder to differentiate between old and new. From what I've seen, this is a new one though.
Its desperate for a service. I cannot tell if the black aound the case back lip is old gasket or corrosion. I don't trust any watch with a telemetre bezel, until weight of evidence pushes my opinion away from it being a Dealer watch that has been prepared for as little money as possible. 2911xxxx often have brown dials, this one does not, but it does have a nice look to it. Its not totally black. (but no premium value) For me, its what might euphemistically be called Full Retail Price. In other words a motivated hunter could trawl ebay, find one needing a service and end up with a watch costing a fair bit less including the service the buyer would be in control of. That said, everything is in short supply at the moment. But as yet, I dont see -69's without DO90's trading at $4900 on this forum.