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  1. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Apr 29, 2015

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  2. Eric_navi Apr 29, 2015

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    Not anymore
     
  3. Eric_navi Apr 29, 2015

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    Wasn't me though
     
  4. hansmaulwurf Senior Snoopy Owner Apr 29, 2015

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    Well, -what do you think, are the hands allready changed?
    145.022 - 69 ... could it be that there are some old handy been installed originally (like on my picture i`ve found)?
    Thanks for your help :)

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  5. Eric_navi Apr 29, 2015

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    No, I don't believe the sweep seconds hand in the pic you sent belongs on this 145.022. The one on the ebay watch is the correct type. Although I'm not sure the watch and the hands started out life together.
     
  6. ulackfocus Apr 29, 2015

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    So what would this watch have gone for (approximately) if it was on an open auction?
     
  7. Davidt Apr 29, 2015

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    Are you saying that's cheap?

    I wouldn't pay that for it.
     
  8. Fost Apr 29, 2015

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    Same... I still not understand the enthusiasm for those 220 bezel...
     
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  9. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Apr 29, 2015

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    The whole point I believe is the rarity. It was only produced for a few months and so out of all the types of pieces it is quite unique in a sense. Now the only tell tale sign is the bezel of course.
     
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  10. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Apr 29, 2015

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    Someone on WUS inquired many many years ago I believe 2008 and this is what the museum had to say:

    Dear Sir,

    Your Omega Speedmaster chronograph - with movement # 26’5XX’XXX - has been manufactured under the reference ST 145.022 – cal. 861 and delivered to our Agents in South Africa on June 23, 1969.

    We have compared all documents in our possession with the submitted photos and could not find any bezel having the number “ 220 “ following the “ 190 “ instead of the normal number “ 200 “. Basically, a number 220 is too close of the number 190 and should clearly stand as “ 200 “

    Strange enough, we had indeed found the identical watch reference ST 145.0022 – cal. 861 under Lot 211 of the ALASKA PROJECT sold on recent Omegamania and having the identical bezel, i.e. showing the number 220 instead of number 200! However, these “Alaska Project” watches were supposed to be some “prototypes“ -

    We cannot find a suitable explanation for this and if you wish to have this “strange” bezel exchanged for a correct new one with the number “200” following the number “190”, then we might do this at no charge for you.

    Thanking you for having brought this is to our knowledge.

    Have a happy Easter

    Best regards
    John R. Diethelm
    OMEGA MUSEUM - Vintage Information
     
  11. Davidt Apr 29, 2015

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    To me, it's just a mistake.

    I completely understand the higher price for a rare configuration, or even a flaw which leads to a desirable aesthetic such as a brown dial.

    However, in this case I just don't understand the hoo ha. It's a mistake, on a tool watch that renders it less useable and doesn't make the watch more attractive. Furthermore it's on a fairly common reference.

    Not my wish list at all. Id much rather have 29xxxxxx 145.022-69 with a DoN.
     
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  12. Fost Apr 29, 2015

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    Totally agree
     
  13. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Apr 29, 2015

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    Desire lies in the collector as some will pay 300-400 for a beat up DoN or up to 1300-1500 for a perfect example. I like to wear my pieces from time to time but the little things are what gives it a little character and drives up value. To each their own but I can see why a collector might jump on a 220 bezel example if in good shape.
     
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  14. Davidt Apr 29, 2015

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    Agree completely.

    This thing would be boring if we all liked the same thing.
     
  15. Fost Apr 29, 2015

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    For the DON i can understand because it is the original , and real, factory bezel. But this one is an aesthetic mistake... But collector World is made of strange thinks :)
     
  16. Eric_navi Apr 29, 2015

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    A mistake certainly, but also makes it a little bit more interesting. It's an extra quirky detail about the watch that makes it stand out from the crowd. Functional? No. But it adds an extra element to conversation about the piece. How much that's worth .... depends on the collector.
     
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  17. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Apr 29, 2015

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    Now if it were on a Rolex Sub with an "error" how much would that bring in lol
     
  18. Fost Apr 29, 2015

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    sure , i understand but it is really not something that make me crazy about a watch. Let s see if those 220 will raise on the furtur as DON do. Even if i know already the answer ...
     
  19. Traveler Apr 29, 2015

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    Sorry but 'less useable' made me smile - my boiled eggs rarely reach 220mph when I'm timing them... I have virtually no use for a chrono, but that's the last reason I buy them...
     
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  20. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 29, 2015

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    Well, the chrono is useful, but the tachy less so, for me anyway.