Hi guys, I wasn't thinking of parting with my (only) speedmaster any time soon, but another aussie collector struck up a conversation after a WRUW post and planted the seed. Im not 100% sure on selling, but I also think I enjoy the 'hunt' and would like to have some funds to purchase another premoon. (It's this or a rolex I guess) I've been looking on various sites for a potential value of the watch, but just had a question for the omega hive mind. My watch has been relumed, albeit expertly, as when I first got it it was washed out and grimey and looked terrible imho. What affect do you think that has on the value? - I would disclose this to the buyer. And ultimately what do you think is a fair price? - I'm sure I could ask for whatever I want, but am not one to extort and think passing pieces on for fair prices is much better for everyone and makes picking them up a lot easier!
The relume imo was nicely done and the watch is visually appealing. A faIr price for a relume is not as codified as for an original. Some (like me) would only pay parts value. Others see a real nice daily wear and pay 5-6k. I would guess the redail would knock off about 2-3 k from the value.
Aw, Ed, you've ruined it. Tell you what, I'll do you a favour and take it off your hands for £250. I'll even chip in for shipping. Seriously, not sure how the true aficionados will view it, but it looks like a lovely watch to me. GLWS if/when you do decide to part with it.
Superb watch, unfortunately the dial relume takes some value out of the equation. I would not buy it if the price wasn't consequentially lower from an original, only because I know that most people think like this...
It's not a redial, just a relume. Considering the original watch was washed out, grimy and presumably unattractive would it still be US$2-3K less? The price would certainly be less but as much as that. The relume has been very well done and a lot better than the original. What would you rather have an attractive relume or unattractive original dial?
Personally, a relume prevents the dial being in the 'good' category, so using sp101 chart I'd start at the running valve, then adjust up as required for the condition of the bezel, case, addition of the bracelet etc.
Hence, "personally", but I still don't think a relumed dial can be 'good'. 'Running+' perhaps but not good. Of course I'm referring to the dial only. If the case, bezel, hands and overall look are 'good', then the value can be approaching that of a 'good' example.
Perhaps OF isn't the right market. You could simply disclose the relume and take the highest offer you get, rather than trying to set a fair price yourself, which might be difficult and subjective in this case? Purists will devalue the watch, others may not be so picky as the watch is quite attractive. Just a thought.
How many of this pre-moon watches, offered in the range of 10k$ are original? I think doubts are appropriate. This watch looks honest to me.
I would calculate it thusly: Take the value of the watch as if it was all original Subtract the value of a correct, original dial (in this case about 2500-3000) Add back the value of a grubby not so nice dial, probably about 800-1000 in this case. So whatever the original value of the watch less about 1700. My reasoning is: to make the watch all kosher, you may have to buy an original dial, but in the process, you could also sell the relumed dial to make up on the cost of the replacement. Very nice looking watch, and for anyone looking for a 321 to wear, this would be a good one.
Your last question is a good one, but not sure it is the right question. I wouldn't want an unattractive original OR an attractive relume, especially with a 145.012 where there are many nice originals out there. And I meant 2-3k less than an otherwise decent example. There are no right answers here.