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  1. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 27, 2016

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    A rare recent purchase. I was surprised to win this, but I did.
    Curious to know what people think about potential dial improvement.
    My decision is to not touch it, because I prefer original.
    However more than one person has said they would try to improve it.
    What does anyone think?
    (I am referring to the spotting on the upper dial, the white splodge between 7 and 8 oclock is a light artifact that I just noticed).
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  2. M'Bob Aug 27, 2016

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    I recall someone successfully mitigating these, but that presumes it/they were spotting of a similar variety. Killer example as it is, but if I had someone good to work with, I would chance a gentle effort on one of the smaller spots and see how it flew.
     
  3. alam Aug 27, 2016

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    what are the possible methods for a fix/retouch? I tend to be a bit risk averse but the way it looks now also makes me say leave as is... as MBob says, a killer example it is :thumbsup:
     
  4. TNTwatch Aug 27, 2016

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    I'd like to see the before and after detail pictures of the improvements by those who suggested it.
     
  5. M'Bob Aug 27, 2016

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    Actually, as I look more closely, those spots could be more in the surface than on the surface. A high-powered loupe would help.
     
  6. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Aug 27, 2016

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    I have heard, though haven't tried myself, that small makeup sponges dampened with a tiny bit of water can remove some of those splotches by dabbing gently on the dial...

    Very nice.

    What's the deal with the wobbly lume? Any idea what causes it to spread or smush like that?
     
  7. Dgercp Aug 27, 2016

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    As you magnify it you can see there are many spots, so it would be a lot of touching up. I agree with your inital gut
    to leave it alone. I think it looks great!
     
  8. TNTwatch Aug 27, 2016

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    It's more likely like M'Bob observed, those spots are where the top paint layer has degraded and/or flaked away. I can't imagine how that can be improved.
    Most likely the same cause as those dial spots - moisture and oxygen.
     
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  9. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 27, 2016

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    I would leave well enough alone. Over the years my batting average with dial cleaning has been about .300 - great for baseball but not so good for vintage omegas.
     
  10. M'Bob Aug 27, 2016

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    Have you looked at the movement yet? Any signs of water damage there? If not, then I would be dubious that the dial spotting is mineral deposit remnants, that might be amenable to dabbing with distilled water. More likely simple degradation.
     
  11. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 27, 2016

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    It is an FAP, so it has had a hard life.
    Movement is pristine.
    Wobbly lume - is it becoming more desirable than the cookie cutter relume jobs?
    I see this wobble on 003's and now on 002.
    It could be "natural" or perhaps early attempts at making the watch serviceable.
    I dont really care in this case.
     
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  12. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 27, 2016

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    The "wobbly lume" looks like the real deal to me. The fine granulated look on close up is typical of radium complete with a bit of burn in the periphery.
     
  13. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Aug 27, 2016

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    I thought that the switch to tritium happened around 2998-6 and these would not be radium. Was it more of a slow transition so the late 2998s could be either?
     
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  14. bravojonybravo Speaks 2915,2120,89 & collects canned time watches Aug 27, 2016

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    You're a have humidity problem with this watch,mould is everywhere,bleach IT.
     
  15. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Aug 27, 2016

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    I agree. I have not seen a 105.002 with a radium dial. If the dial is radium, it might not be the original dial.
     
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  16. Psych Aug 27, 2016

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    It does look like flaking of the most superficial paint layer. Seen this in the grey dialled 105.002 that I posted here some months ago, but doesn't detract from the overall attractiveness of what is a stunning find - particularly in these lean times. Well done.
     
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  17. Davidt Aug 28, 2016

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    Up close does it look like the stain is on top of the dial? From you picture I'd agree with one of the posters above, thst it looks more like the paint has worn thin, possible due to someone in the past trying to remove some of the water staining?

    I'd almost certainly leave as is.

    Lovely looking watch.
     
  18. dx009 Aug 28, 2016

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    This is the type of watch that you either leave it as it is (for the time being, at least) or you have it fully reconditioned by a professional. I like it just the way it is. It has personality.
     
  19. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Aug 28, 2016

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    FAP? Let it be.
     
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  20. nixf6 Aug 28, 2016

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    I'll save you the dilemma
    Sell it to me with a 15% profit so I can leave it in it natural beauty.
     
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