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  1. omppu Mar 26, 2019

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    For me, this is not look 105.012 case.....
     
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  2. omppu Mar 26, 2019

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    More pics, terrible caseback
     
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  3. DotOverNine Mar 26, 2019

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    It’s certainly not a 105.012 case. Where is it listed?
     
  4. omppu Mar 26, 2019

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    Anibis.ch
     
  5. athom Mar 26, 2019

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    Extract of archives made with Microsoft Word !! ::puke::
     
  6. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 26, 2019

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    I think the extract is ok, just the older format. Note that extracts from around 2010 are generally considered a bit suspect.

    So this is .A straight lug case? Worth looking into a bit more imho. Prepro dial and aovement number that could work for an Ed White.

    I'd want to see inside case back and maybe a refreshed extract.
     
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  7. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 26, 2019

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    Isn’t it most likely it’s a swapped movement or an extract serial the doesn’t match the watch. At present it lowers the value! Actually looking at the mix of incorrect parts, it’s maybe just a built up Franken with a movement extract.
     
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  8. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 26, 2019

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    Could be, but appears that it could also be just a bad extract - maybe movement number was misrepresented on the original request for example.

    I see a proper straight lug case, prepro dial and movement number that fits the range for a 105.003-64. Hence, I would investigate more at the bare minimum.
     
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  9. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 26, 2019

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    I mean, it will never be "collector grade" with the damage to the dial, but might be a good daily wear if the price is right.
     
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  10. Davidt Mar 26, 2019

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    I'd be double checking the serial on the extract against the actual serial.

    If they are indeed matching it's most likely a movement swap at some point.
     
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  11. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 26, 2019

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    I'd be checking the movement number against a new extract.
     
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  12. monza_75 Mar 27, 2019

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    Few weeks ago I asked the seller for additional pics about the movement and the case back: 22824483 / 105.012-64. So the extract seems to be correct regarding (only) these parts...
     
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  13. Dan S Mar 27, 2019

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    I didn't even realize that you could put a 105.012 case-back on a straight-lug case.
     
  14. OMEGuy Mar 27, 2019

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    Ok.Referring to the seller's pics it's a 105.012-64 Professional caseback on an Ed White 105.003 case. The movement serial # is correct for a -64 case reference. This watch must have had a strange life...

    If there wasn't the EOA, I'd have guessed it's a 105.003-64 with a swapped caseback.

    Everything about this watch looks awful and there's too much mix-up here IMO.

    Though the price of CHF 5.250,- is moderate, I wouldn't think of buying this watch.

    Even considering the VAP it might be hardly worth it, especially because the seller says he wants 1.250,- on top for the steel bracelet...:(
     
  15. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 27, 2019

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    alrighty, there ya go.

    I think on VAP, it's not a bad buy at $5,250 USD. Case is easily 2K+ (even without a proper caseback), movement, easily 2.5K, dial, maybe 1.5-2K (even in that condition, imho). But it only makes sense as VAP, and if you need the parts. Agree now that movement is confirmed as belonging to 105.012, it's not a watch to buy for wearing (or "investement").
     
  16. Delbok Mar 27, 2019

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    Can I ask what do you see on the movement picture that determines that it's a 105.012 and not a 105.003 please? Even with my MWO book opened on my knees I cannot see the difference... ::facepalm1::
     
  17. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 27, 2019

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    The extract for that serial is what determines it is a Pro movement, nothing else. The movements are otherwise identical.
     
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  18. Delbok Mar 27, 2019

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    Thanks a lot I thought I was missing something obvious ::book::
     
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  19. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Mar 27, 2019

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    Which is why I was theorizing that maybe the extract was wrong. :D
     
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  20. nonuffinkbloke #1 Nigel Mansell Fan Mar 27, 2019

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    Nobody has mentioned the DNN bezel? Looks like a rather rough B2. ::confused2::