I think the extract is ok, just the older format. Note that extracts from around 2010 are generally considered a bit suspect. So this is .A straight lug case? Worth looking into a bit more imho. Prepro dial and aovement number that could work for an Ed White. I'd want to see inside case back and maybe a refreshed extract.
Isn’t it most likely it’s a swapped movement or an extract serial the doesn’t match the watch. At present it lowers the value! Actually looking at the mix of incorrect parts, it’s maybe just a built up Franken with a movement extract.
Could be, but appears that it could also be just a bad extract - maybe movement number was misrepresented on the original request for example. I see a proper straight lug case, prepro dial and movement number that fits the range for a 105.003-64. Hence, I would investigate more at the bare minimum.
I mean, it will never be "collector grade" with the damage to the dial, but might be a good daily wear if the price is right.
I'd be double checking the serial on the extract against the actual serial. If they are indeed matching it's most likely a movement swap at some point.
Few weeks ago I asked the seller for additional pics about the movement and the case back: 22824483 / 105.012-64. So the extract seems to be correct regarding (only) these parts...
Ok.Referring to the seller's pics it's a 105.012-64 Professional caseback on an Ed White 105.003 case. The movement serial # is correct for a -64 case reference. This watch must have had a strange life... If there wasn't the EOA, I'd have guessed it's a 105.003-64 with a swapped caseback. Everything about this watch looks awful and there's too much mix-up here IMO. Though the price of CHF 5.250,- is moderate, I wouldn't think of buying this watch. Even considering the VAP it might be hardly worth it, especially because the seller says he wants 1.250,- on top for the steel bracelet...
alrighty, there ya go. I think on VAP, it's not a bad buy at $5,250 USD. Case is easily 2K+ (even without a proper caseback), movement, easily 2.5K, dial, maybe 1.5-2K (even in that condition, imho). But it only makes sense as VAP, and if you need the parts. Agree now that movement is confirmed as belonging to 105.012, it's not a watch to buy for wearing (or "investement").
Can I ask what do you see on the movement picture that determines that it's a 105.012 and not a 105.003 please? Even with my MWO book opened on my knees I cannot see the difference...
The extract for that serial is what determines it is a Pro movement, nothing else. The movements are otherwise identical.