Hi Everyone, I'm trying to figure out if I can fit a 117STZ003191 007 adjustable clasp on my 1997 SMP 2531.80. I know a 2537.80 clasp would be a direct fit but I dont like the TM DESIGN under 007 and the 117STZ003191 is not only micro adjustable and 007 it has no silly trademark markings. I think I would need 2 end links, 8 pins and 4 screws but I'm not for sure. You think Norah in Pittsburgh would know or some Clasp Master here on the board????



I think the part numbers for the screws , pins and links are.



Clasp X1
0118ST1589 End links x2 ? for Bond
0128ST0166 Pins x4? For Bond
0124ST3307 Screws x8? For Bond

Thank You in advance

 

Just FYI, no Omega boutique will sell you the 007 clasp unless you have the 007 watch it came on. They will sell you an adjustable clasp, but Omega still has to license all of their uses of the 007 logo from Danjaq.

 

I thought that was the case--too bad really. It's a nice looking clasp. They go for around $250 on ebay. I bet the actual Omega price is closer to $125-$150

 

EDIT: Disregard, I guess you do need newer SMPc endlinks for compatibility with 1503/825 bracelets (see below for link).

 

I have the 1503/825 Bracelet with pins. The clasp is new in package on ebay. Price is probably double but if I cant get it anywhere else?

 

To be clear, the normal version can be bought by anyone. There are three versions in steel.

The 007 version cannot be bought unless you own the SPECTRE LE.

 

Pin and tube bracelets will NOT work with the 1154 clasp. You need a screw and pin bracelet, or at least screw and pin links on either side.

There are plenty of threads on this topic, I don't know why this is such a confusing subject.

 

If you can't go through an OB/AD, then you'll have to go grey There are a few reputable sellers with parts accounts who might be able to order for you at an additional discount--easier to negotiate if you can find someone in your own country. My advice, check for sellers hawking tons of new dials/hands/parts on ebay, and contact them about what price they'd charge to order it for you off of ebay.

 

Can you point me to one? Because I've read at least 3-4 threads from start to finish on various forums, spoken with 3-4 people at length, and all imply that the old style seamaster is fully compatible without need for additional endlinks/screws/short-pins. I know it is possible to attach the newer screw endlinks to the older bracelets, but apparently it's not necessary. If you can point me to something that undeniably shows that a 1503/825 bracelet NEEDS newer endlinks, I'd actually be very, very happy. It'd probably save me a second trip.

In case I was misunderstood, I was just saying that the MSRP of the 3191 clasp is probably closer to the cost of the 1154 non-LE clasp. While impossible to get through normal means, I'm sure there are people with parts accounts who can successfully order for you at closer to MSRP without running into problems. I've had no issues ordering LE parts via 2 of my contacts when the official word is that you NEED to own the original watches to get replacements. I'm told that there's a risk of Omega denying such orders, but generally they don't.

 

I own the clasp (in Ti for my 45.5 PO), a 2220.80, 2232.30. I can 100% guarantee that the clasp will not work with the end links on the 1503 bracelet as they don't have threading to keep the screws in place.

Even with the appropriate end links, it will be a very poor fit. I've tested this at my local OB. If you have a 2531.80 or similar, the easiest option if you want an adjustable clasp is to buy the new screw and pin bracelet ($760 or so) and the 1154 clasp ($117). The bracelet is a direct fit, and is much more robust and won't stretch like the 1503 does.

Edit: here's a thread from WUS:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/wh...asp-117stz001154-3609002.html#/topics/3609002

 

Nuts, I did another search after posting (specifically searching for 1503/825), and found this thread:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/om...ble-clasp-bond-1503-825-bracelet-3420314.html
Looks like the endlinks are necessary after all. I stand corrected. Guess I'll remove some of what I added above, just in case someone sees it and is led astray as I was.

Having to buy a brand new bracelet for $700+ would be rather pricey just to add on microadjustments. Fortunately I already have one from another watch
Still, I think I'd rather pay the extra $100 for the 2 endlinks and salvage the original bracelet.

 

Even with the endlinks, it's a very poor fit. I'd recommend the modern bracelet (will also save you money as it won't stretch over time).

 

Do the endlinks fit so tight that they basically cannot move? Or is it too loose? I'd really like to keep the original bracelet with the watch, but my wrist size adjusts so frequently that I've been forced to use rubber straps. If it's so bad as to be unusable, maybe I'll just abandon the idea.

I wish the OP of this thread hadn't fallen off the face of the earth:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/micro-adjusting-clasp.37817/
Tried to converse, but never heard back. He clearly shows newer endlinks on an old SMP bracelet.

 

The pin and collar part of the bracelet will be too loose on the screw and pin end links. It works, but it feels really loose like the old Rolex bracelets.

The new bracelet looks exactly the same, except better finish and more solid. And the clasp is direct-fit.

 

I'll take loose over tight as long as it's secure. I think I'll order all of the parts and give it a go--worst case, it goes up on ebay. Thank you for the firsthand information--you definitely saved me a followup trip to my OB, as I didn't plan on ordering the endlinks.

 

Yep me to I know with the right parts it will work, I really dont care since I can always put the clasp on my PO or GP.




My little collection

 

So for 007 micro adjust buckle and all associated parts to make it work. $243. Delivered.

 

Nice job--seems like after factoring in links, you beat the ebay pricing by a wide margin!

 

We just have to wait and see I'm not going to do my happy Dance till I have it in my hands. Its ordered and paid for , Clasp alone. $135. I suspect about a $18 mark up I mean they have to make a little profit though I did just spend $1200 with them.

 

OK so I at least have a start. Not really hard to get if you know the right people. Now I need to figure out if its new end links or if it will fit direct. Dont bother telling me it cant be done , I have a machine shop available that make parts for motorcycle engines. @mokofoko