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  1. alvaropinto Apr 19, 2014

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    The second pic it's a 23 4 indeed. I've actually suplied ranftt database with picture of the movement.
     
  2. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Apr 19, 2014

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    Ok. And what is the size of the case? The 23.7 I saw with this case were around 28mm and weree women's watches.
    Strange enough the 23.4 is far more difficult to find than the 23.4SC
     
  3. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe Apr 19, 2014

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    '38 Waltham, I have no idea what that reflection is over the "five"...... my crappy photography I guess!
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  4. alvaropinto Apr 20, 2014

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    The case is 26mm excluding the crown. I also have the small scarabé version and a Naiad?
     
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  5. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Apr 20, 2014

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    Hi,
    The scarabé is nice and would, IMHO, deserve a less 'flashy' second hand.
    The second one is effectively a Naiad, first generation. It should have 'waterproof Modèle+déposé' and the serial number engraved on the caseback. As soon as I have access again to my laptop, I'll post pictures of mine...
    I have been able to copy the link of old pictures of my scarabés [edited to better quality pictures...:) ] :

    The small size with a 23.4SC:
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    and the big size, with a 26.5SOB :
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  6. alvaropinto Apr 20, 2014

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    The scarabee had meanwhile, the second hand restored to a red color closer to the original ...
     
  7. UncleBuck understands the decision making hierarchy Apr 20, 2014

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    I have a NAIAD from the same family. Any questions I have, I ask Yann, he knows more about my watches than I do!
    This one has the oversized snap back.



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  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 20, 2014

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    If someone wants to join this club, here is an inexpensive way to do so.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENTS-VINTA...E-WATCH-/271461217966?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

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    Looks all original to my eyes, although condition is not perfect. With a decent service and some rust clean-up on the hands, you'll get good service out of this one.

    Good luck,
    gatorcpa
     
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  9. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Apr 22, 2014

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    Hi all,
    I finally got access again to my laptop. I took the liberty to replace in my previous posts of this thread, the low res pictures I had posted from my Ipad with higher resolution ones. So same watches but less ugly pictures.

    Now let's play the identification (guessing?) game with the watches posted before:

    Alvaropinto's first Watch posted on Monday seems to be a ref CK920, created in 1935. Here it is in the 1935 T17 creation brochure. It confirms the dial at the same occasion :



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    The Naiad he posted on Saturday is a ref CK 2111, shown here in the general catalog 1940 :
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    and in a small swiss catalog of the same year :
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    One of mine :
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    The second one (23.4 with small second) appears to be a ref CK 710, here in the 1940 catalog :
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    The third one was identified, it's a CK 4044.

    The last one of the same post (the 'puzzle') remains to be identified.I've two 26.5 SOB (one T2 and one T3) with the same kind of caseback but different designs...

    The Scarabé on his Sunday post is a ref CK 2009, here in the 1940 catalog :
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    and the last one in his post (and the one posted by Unclebuck) is the famous CK 2064. Here for example in a 1938 catalog :
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    Mine :
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    The one posted by Gator and put for sale by Michael is a CK 816. Here for example in a 1935 catalog :
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    or here in a 1938 catalog showing both luminous and non luminous versions :
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    One of mines :
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    It's getting late now in France, but if you're interested, I'll try the same another day with the other watches shown in this thread.
     
  10. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 22, 2014

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    Beautiful watches!
     
  11. UncleBuck understands the decision making hierarchy Apr 22, 2014

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    Yann is the Maestro, conducting his symphony of classical beauty accompanied by graphic artistry.
    I am constantly amazed.
     
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  12. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 22, 2014

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    So am I. Yann has the most unbelievable collection of classic Omega advertising and catalogs I've seen from any brand.

    And his watches are pretty good, too! ::love::
    gatorcpa
     
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  13. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Apr 23, 2014

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    OK, to continue with identification of watches in this post,

    The first one, posted by Adam78 on page 1 (Foibos) is a ref CK785.

    Here in the 1933 catalog, in both luminous and non luminous dials :
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    Here in a 1937 Italian catalog :
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    Mine, with the typical art deco luminous dial and hands (note that the one in AJTT has incorrect hands...) :
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    The second one he showed is, IMHO, not a scarab. It's a CK 615. Here in the Italian 1937 catalog :
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    or in the 1940 catalog :
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    Mine is in a quite good condition :
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    Interested in continuing?
     
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  14. UncleBuck understands the decision making hierarchy Apr 23, 2014

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    Yann says,
    "Mine, with the typical art deco luminous dial and hands (note that the one in AJTT has incorrect hands...) :
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    Interested in continuing?[/quote]



    Most Definitely!!

    The Dutch windmills certainly inspired those hands.
     
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  15. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Apr 25, 2014

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    Continuing on page one, the first Watch posted by Martrux is a T17 and seems to be ref CK 891, here in the 1940 catalog :

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    The second one he posted is a caliber 20F 'Dedalos' ref CK 964 or 969 :
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    Mine :
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    The watch posted by Gatorcpa on the same page is a ref CK 2023, as he wrote.
    Here in the 1940 catalog :
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    And mines :
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  16. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 25, 2014

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    And my CK2023 with a slightly different dial:

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    Along with the coffin-style box I purchased later:

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    Take care,
    gatorcpa
     
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  17. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 25, 2014

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  18. alvaropinto Apr 26, 2014

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    Wow!! That's amazing. Love those catalog pictures!
    Here's both my Foibos and scarabé models - cal.26.5.
    Post some period italian advertisements as well...more to come.
    Cheers
     
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  19. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Apr 26, 2014

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    Hi,

    Nice Foibos. The 26.5 is IMHO not a scarabée, the lug shape is different.
    The scarabée :
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    And the CK 615 :
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  20. alvaropinto Apr 26, 2014

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    What's IMHO?
    The CK 615 you show has a crown exactly like mine. You think that's original? I always thought it was a replacement...