I know it´s bit late but i just wanted to know if i did ok with this one.
It is a very late 105.012 serial starts with 260
so it even could be that bezel and hands are correct.
What do you say?

 

yup, if i didn´t see it wrong on the pictures, have to wait until i receive it.
It is a 66 thou, so serial should be in the higher end

 

Saw the listing. Serial too late for a 66. Replacement bezel and chrono hand at least? No pic of crown in original listing.

 

I am not concerned yet... at least the case is nice and i find the lume does match quite well. Bezel also looks well used so if it was changed, it did happen in the early years of this watch .

 

My 105.012-66 CB is a 2495 xxxx serial. Pushers look like the shorter ones which are correct for the CB case. My dial has the narrower T Swiss Made T

 

Bought a 105.012-66 CB last week, and it is 24,9 mill

 

Is it true that the 321 cal ceased to be made in 1960 and serial numbers were added based on the subsequent year they were "expected" to be sold?

 

Still have to learn about these vintage watches
But the price was tempting and if it isnt what it looks like i will tear it apart and sell the parts

 

I had that saved I my watch list to see where it went. Do you have a return option? As above Id get an extract with a view to returning if it comes back as a transplanted movement.

The hands and bezel can be sourced if you got it at a decent price but if it's a complete Franken it'd be too much for me.

 

As soon as i got it, i will provide more detailed pics. The serial is hard to read from the pictures it could also be starting with 250...... We just have to wait a couple of days until it arrives.

 

I got use for the dial because my 145.012 has all the lume scratched off.
But i still have hope that it is what i believe, a very very late 105.012 ... in that case even the second hand and the bezel could still be orginal. On the other hand it could be a 105.012 which had a serious service end of the 60ties and bezel, hands, dial could have been swapped.

 

Hopefully your right and the movement comes back ok.

Even in the worse case scenario it sounds like you have a use for the dial and if it is a franken, there's no real shame in breaking it up for parts. I'm sure a CB case and the 321 would interest a few people.

Have to agree that the hands and bezel certainly aren't original though.

Keep us posted, good luck!

 

Most certainly you are right about the bezel.
I just checked the extract of records of my 145.012-67 which has a serial starting with 260 too, in fact it is just 7000 units apart from the serial of the 105.012.It was produced in
68 thou.
I really hope i couldnt read the number right and it is 250 instead of 260 .
But always look at the bright side... i love the dial and the case.

 

Franken or not, that's actually a nice looking watch; given full disclosure in any further sale, it would seem a shame to break it....

 

I agree with Mothra. The watch is a nice looking one and you should wear it and enjoy it for what it is.

 

ID s/n watch purchase date date from extract of the archives model year model source
109 22.824.329 105.012-64 29-Dec-64 chrono 24
21 18.945.447 105.012-66 1966 antiquourum
32 20.521.391 105.012-63 forum
52 22.089.xxx 105.012 06-Dec-65 NASA
53 22.089.xxx 105.012 20-Dec-65 NASA Cernan
54 22.824.217 105.012-64 1964 antiquourum
57 24.002.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Armstrong
58 24.002.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Bean
59 24.002.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Brand
60 24.002.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Cernan
61 24.003.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Brand
62 24.003.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Carr
63 24.003.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Conrad
64 24.003.xxx 105.012-65 12-Aug-66 NASA Mattingly
67 24.012.525 105.012-65 1965 antiquourum
68 24.013.716 105.012-65 1965 antiquourum
71 24.042.821 105.012-65 ebay
76 24.950.xxx 105.012-66 01-Jun-67 1966 forum
77 24.951.xxx 105.012-66 27-Jun-67 1966 forum
78 24.952.916 105.012-66 1966 antiquourum
80 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Bean
81 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Borman
82 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Gibson
83 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Gordon
84 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Schweickart
85 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Slayton
86 24.957.xxx 105.012-66 07-Nov-67 NASA Slayton
87 24.958.098 105.012-66 forum
90 25.447.907 105.012-63 18-Mar-68 1963 antiquourum

Above is a list of 105.012 s/n that I have collected off the internet. With the exception of the last one on the list, the s/n's are all less than 25 xxx xxx. The bezel is incorrect. The hands are incorrect. The dial looks like it might have been relumed. I think it is a Franken in a CB case.