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Has Everyone Been Doing Their Homework? Fake Constellation

  1. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 26, 2012

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    Ah... well that answers that doesn't it :cautious:
     
  2. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 26, 2012

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    How do you report items? I've never done it?

    Also, do we usually also contact the seller?
     
  3. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 26, 2012

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    If its a legit seller with 100% feedback and a lot of history, I tend to ask the seller if they'll take it down on their own, many have done so. If its a new account like this, its not worth the effort, there's a report item button on the eBay page, report it on grounds of copyright infringement and then select counterfeit goods. In the description briefly explain the reason.
     
  4. ulackfocus Oct 26, 2012

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    1) Click on "Report Item" on the right side of the listing just under the seller information

    2) In the first drop down box "Report Category" select "copyright and trademark"

    3) In the second drop down box "Reason for Report" select "Counterfeit item or authenticity disclaimer"

    4) In the third drop down box "Detailed Reason" select "Counterfeit, fake, or replica items"

    5) Click on the blue Continue box

    6) In the Brief Description box type in a short sentence calling it a fake

    Voila!
     
  5. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 27, 2012

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    Reported! My first time.
     
  6. fjf Oct 27, 2012

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    However in this case the dog-leg lugs are present. Is the case real or a better fake?
     
  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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    If the item is sold by an occasional seller, what you are saying is probably true. I've also seen many high volume sellers with both real and fake pieces. Those guys are dealing in volume and not necessarily looking closely at each one.

    If he item is coming from Asia or India, then I've seller likely knows.

    Gatorcpa
     
  8. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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  9. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 27, 2012

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    Note on the first photo how the edge (chamfer) on the jewel hole is gone, this is because the bridge has been ground down so a new caliber number could be engraved, also note how shallow the engraving is. A 552 is a much easier movement to come by than a 551 so this is likely what was used to create this monster.

    Second photos shows how it should look.

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  10. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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    And still up, despite multiple reportings. Perhaps because it is eBay Germany?
     
  11. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 27, 2012

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    We'll see if a call to eBay Trust & Safety does any good.
     
  12. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 27, 2012

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    GONE!
     
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  13. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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    What's the eBay trust and safety department just out of interest?
     
  14. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 27, 2012

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    That would be the people behind the scenes that do care and want things like this off the site.

    They may be money hungry whores, but having counterfeit goods is a black eye and they really
    don't tolerate it.
     
  15. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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    Yea I can imagine. What I'd be curious about though is whether they're aware of the situation surrounding those converted pocket watches?
     
  16. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 27, 2012

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    Thank! Got it
     
  17. ulackfocus Oct 27, 2012

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    Chamfering = countersinking. (sort of)
     
  18. GHigh May 17, 2016

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    Oh dear...wanted to buy a vintage watch and went to a recommended seller - a proper watch shop. Eventually decided against gold and more delicate gold mechanical winder, and bought a Constellation Piepan automatic with date, late 50s/early 60s (allegedly) that I can wear all the time. Only now came across this forum and realised I had been rather reckless....
    In particular, my watch looks in too good a condition to be true! No patina on the dial
    Even so, I checked out a lot of the signs of fakes, and haven't found anything glaringly obvious....crosshair alignment, hand alignment, lettering....even the little Omega etched in the centre of the front crystal is there....so perhaps it's an Omega restoration? Or a very well assembled rehash from other models.
    I'll send the pics and see what you experts say. Sorry, I am so green that I don't even know how to open the watch back, so have no pics of movement.
    Thanks for your comments...but please don't mock me too much for my lack of experience! I hadn't realised the depth of technical expertise that such sites offer. So, much appreciated!
    Now for the good news: I am v happy with the look of the watch, and it keeps excellent time!
    Ignorance is bliss ;-)
    Ghigh
     
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  19. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 17, 2016

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    Looks like a very nice 168010.
    Does it have quick set date?

    Only wrong thing is the second hand, generic and a bit too thick.
     
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  20. mondodec Editor Constellation Collectors Blog May 17, 2016

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    Agree

    Lug chamfers are nice and sharp. Looks like a late 168.010

     
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