Forums Latest Members
  1. kidamazo Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    108
    Likes
    19
    Hello,

    I have been really wanting to start my watch collection with a vintage affordable chronograph, but 1)I am not experienced enough to know what is worth the risk and 2) anything really somewhat risk-free (such as things for sale in the forums here) are just way outside my price range.

    So I am thinking I should just start off with an affordable and new watch and the only things even close to what I can afford are Hamilton chrono, and maybe a low end B&R. Does anyone have thoughts on contemporary Hamiltons? Are these just essentially assembly line watches? Can I be proud to own one?
    Thanks. Love you guys.
     
  2. ulackfocus Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    25,983
    Likes
    26,972
    Hamiltons I like. So do a lot of collectors, especially as a good example of a nice watch for under $1000.

    Bell & Ross….. um…..

    [​IMG]
     
  3. kidamazo Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    108
    Likes
    19
    Ha! Can you say more?
     
  4. kidamazo Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    108
    Likes
    19
    Also, I should have said I am only looking at Hamilton automatic chronos.
     
  5. ulackfocus Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    25,983
    Likes
    26,972

    I'm going to quote LouS from another forum because he sums it up perfectly:



    They're powered by the Valjoux 7750. No complaints from me about that caliber.
     
  6. Zuke Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    967
    Likes
    1,719
    You don't always have to buy a watch based on the manufacturers heritage and historical importance.

    Buy what you like!

    At the price point that you are looking at I really like the B&R's and U-Boats as well. That being said B&R's do not hold their value very well, so I would never buy one at retail. Definitely look for something second hand or on the grey market.
     
  7. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    6,713
    Likes
    18,260

    Zuke, you're right of course, but doesn't it rub you the wrong way to be sold a bill of goods? I think I'd find it easier to buy a B&R if they did not insist so heavily on their aviation history which never existed. It makes me feel like the mark in a con, and that sure won't get me to reach for my wallet.
     
  8. kidamazo Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    108
    Likes
    19
    Other suggestions for going new with an auto chronograph between 1000 and 1200 USD? I'm looking for something classic with Arabic numerals...
     
  9. Zuke Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    967
    Likes
    1,719
    Lou - I can definitely see why this would upset a consumer, it's almost like false advertising. I've only owned one B&R, I bought it simply because I liked the look. It was a military spec model, but to your point I don't know if it was every actually commissioned by the military for use. Ultimately I made my decision based on the simple fact that I liked the watch.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. ulackfocus Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    25,983
    Likes
    26,972
    If the B & R marketing department didn't exist, I might like one or two of their watches, like the Space 2 which Sinn made for them. But the schlock campaigns they run sour me off the brand, much like Jonny Sonbul.
     
  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    6,713
    Likes
    18,260
    The creative, fearless son of Father Time?:D
     
  12. ulackfocus Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    25,983
    Likes
    26,972

    So you've met him! :p
     
  13. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    6,713
    Likes
    18,260
    You can be absolutely 100% certain it was not. That is true of all of their watches.
     
  14. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    4,642
    Likes
    31,005
    I have to allow that Bell & Ross have done a better job adapting cockpit instruments to the wrist than Zenith has.

    [​IMG]

    Any excuse to flog that photo.
     
    citizenrich and LouS like this.
  15. Jimmy Jim Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    194
    Likes
    127
    I know this isn't the chrono you are looking for, but I also have a soft spot for Hamilton. Cost per craftsmanship , they are simply amazing. x48771-c746ca9bd46f12ff7e1fd96bcfc89258.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Pve8i61dIw.jpg
     
  16. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    6,713
    Likes
    18,260

    Hell, I'll bet this is the image that Rolex saw and thought, "We gotta get this guy in the corner office!"
     
    citizenrich likes this.
  17. kidamazo Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    108
    Likes
    19
    So now that I have you all here, what are your thoughts on Tissot?
     
  18. ulackfocus Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    25,983
    Likes
    26,972

    I like them almost as much as Hamilton and CW. Vintage specimens I like even more.
     
  19. kidamazo Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    108
    Likes
    19
    Maybe I should post something to the wanted section... I do like the vintage Tissot's also.
     
  20. Jimmy Jim Apr 16, 2014

    Posts
    194
    Likes
    127
    +1 for vintage Tissot