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Any advice for my dilemma? (Datejust black dial vs GMT II Root Beer)

  1. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 26, 2013

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    I have this 1997 Rolex Datejust Two Tone with Black Jubilee Dial and gold Arabic hour markers, which I really like
    91 Rolex DJ black dial v3 WRUW LR.jpg

    Now I am eyeing a 1985 GMT Master II Root beer like this (not real picture of my target watch, just picture from a website)
    16713-rolex-gmt-master-root beer 1.jpg
    I don't want to own two Rolexes, so should I trade up my Datejust to GMT Master 2 Root beer?
    What's your advice?
     
  2. ulackfocus Aug 26, 2013

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    Root beers rock.
     
  3. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 26, 2013

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    several more votes and probably I will crawl to that shop and stomach the price difference.........:unsure:
     
  4. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 26, 2013

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    Rootbeers are not as popular with the general Rolex crowd. Though they all say, wow neat watch, they tend not to buy them. That is all the better for me, like to have a watch that not everyone and his brother own.
    Plus, though I generally don't care for TT watches, this is one that looks good in TT, perhaps it is the beautiful bezel with the matching dial that carries it off. The TT Oyster also looks super one these.
     
  5. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Aug 26, 2013

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    Root beer gets my vote. But if I can only own one Rolex, it will be the 1675.
     
  6. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 26, 2013

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    I have unique taste, so I think I am in line with you. I don't like the main stream two tone black dial GMT Master.
     
  7. poppetis Aug 26, 2013

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    Root Beer is that little different= COOL.
     
  8. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 26, 2013

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    If it is a straight choice between the two watches you posted, I'd also go for the Root Beer.
     
  9. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 26, 2013

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    I think you're doomed Her, doomed I say. :D
     
  10. seamonster Respectable Member Aug 26, 2013

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    Respectable Member Privateday7

    Definitely a root beer but I would rather have the early model with the 'nipple' dial.

    Thank-you.
     
  11. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 26, 2013

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    The GMT-Master II is a bit larger, of course, so be sure to try it on first. I think it is the more attractive and interesting of the two, but I would perhaps suggest a 16753 root beer, which is among the last of the acrylic GMT-Masters (not a II), but with a quick-set date and higher beat movement than the cal. 1575 that is in the 1675.
     
  12. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 26, 2013

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    I know, the venom has entered my vein.
     
  13. screwzlewz Aug 26, 2013

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    I agree with the rest, specifically SeaMonster. I like the two tone nipple dials with the dial that turns burgundy in the correct sunlight.
     
  14. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 26, 2013

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    Yes, even the darker brown dial is more attractive. However it is more difficult to find in Jakarta. Last weekend I saw two for sale in my frequently visited second hand watches shop. Both GMT Master 2 16713, one a 2003 and the other a 1985. The next day I brought my father in law in this shop again. He has been looking for GMT Master 2 with black dial for sometimes.
    Once he looked at the Root Beer he immediately change his mind and took the newer (2003) Root Beer.....so only one left. That's when my dilemma begin.
     
  15. seamonster Respectable Member Aug 26, 2013

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    Respectable Member Privateday7

    Do not worry, this venom with lengthen your life-span.

    Thank-you.
     
  16. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 26, 2013

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    :D
     
  17. seamonster Respectable Member Aug 26, 2013

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    Definitely the nipple plus its color-change dial will make the whole watch look so lively.

    Thank-you.
     
  18. styggpyggeno1 ΩF Enforcer ....and thread killer Aug 27, 2013

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    I would like to dwell a little in your "I don't want to own two Rolexes". To me it sounds like it is a stand - not from a economic point of view but for some other reason. Why have you put this restriction on yourself? Having two or more Rolexes does not make you a bad person...;)

    But if that is your choice - only one of the two you have presented to us - go for the root beer.

    Not that is has anything to do with your choice, but any Rolex not popular with the Rolex crowd is destined to become a collectors piece in the end. The watches that were difficult to sell are the ones most coveted now. 60-70-ies Daytonas, orange hand Explorers, Oysterquartzes, etc. were shelfwarmers. Dealers had to take them to get the popular ones.

    Root beer GMT: s - plastic or sapphire crystal, nipple or no nipple, has never been flying off the shelves. I, for one, do not understand why.
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  19. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Aug 27, 2013

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    JE, thanks for your response

    Of course it is not. My father owned and loyal wearer of Rolex for almost his entire adult life. How could I say owning them make bad person. :)
    It is more discipline and a bit economic reason,too. If there is watch budget surplus available, my first priority right now (and probably next 1-2 years) is completing my vintage Omega. Unlike you I am only a new (1 year next month) watch collector, which still learn to 'pacing' my acquisition and divestment so I can say I am a collector, not a hoarder. In the next 3-6 month I plan to sell probably 25-30% of my collection and focusing on ones that aligned with my collection theme.
    Actually owning popular Rolex is like holding Bond (at least in Indonesia). The value almost never depreciate. So they are the most logical choice watch to own. Fortunately most of us vintage watch collectors are not really logical human creature. :p

    So now are they flying off the shelf or still become the stepchildren among Rolexes in shop's window?
    I google about root beer and in Rolexforum they call this Rootbeer has the aura of 70's porn actor watch :D.



    Again, yours is beautiful. The ones that I have seen in Jakarta mostly has lighter brown dial - this one has more dramatic presence.
     
  20. seamonster Respectable Member Aug 27, 2013

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    Respectable Member Privateday7

    Those you see in Jakarta do not have a rich color because probably, they had been exposed to too much strong sunlight.

    Thank-you.
     
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